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 A little acetone will bring back that streak-free shine. Yes you can use alcohol or any other solvent but that too only to dissolve the extract or any other compound but final dilutions you should have to prepare by diluting it with water. (7) The smell of acetone on someoneâs breath can be a very bad sign. I have in the past just splashed acetone on the part to smooth parts, so I'm not sure I fully follow you when you say it's the vapor that does the work. In moving air, it has less opportunity to grab some ABS as it sails off into the atmosphere... well I respect your answers, but I am not sure I am really believing/understanding it. I find it very interesting how though only at 25% water it was very stabilized and only melted slowly. A Deuterated Mouse: Isotopes and Phys. Step 3  Phenol is mostly used to make polymers like plastics; it was also the first antiseptic to be discovered, by Joseph Listeras in, Listerine. In truth though the acetone diluted with water would probably be strong enough to dissolve it. Also, Fume Hood for Hair? Dilute water-based and aqueous acrylic-based paint thinners with distilled water. To extend the time of work with glue, it can be diluted with acetone. To clarify, Ronsii, you were dunking the parts in the mixture? Instead, youâll need to use acetone to soften it to a point where you can pull the nails off. The amount of water you add depends on the desired effect and the surface. Jan 15, 2011 #3. In this reaction, acetone is the solute and water is the solvent. Can you thin acrylic paint with commercial paint thinner? Works like a charm! . I tried due-diligence and googled a bunch, but heard nothing of it. For small parts you can use a ceramic bowl and saucer. He re-labeled his bottles “dimethyl ketone” and didn’t have a problem anymore. The use of dilute H 2 O 2 to clean chemical vessels is common, but it has been shown to be potentially hazardous due to the reaction of H 2 O 2 with organic solvents to form explosive peroxides. Acetone can be used in cleaning the kitchen floor to remove various stains and marks from it. 2. Thatâs 2 parts alcohol to one part water. Can you give a bit more background for where you're coming from making those specific statements? Can You Thin Wood Stain With Alcohol? This morning I am more willing to understand that vapor can have some serious advantages if only for kinetic energy reasons. Petroleum-based paint thinners require isopropyl alcohol to dilute the product. Heat the bowl with a torch, put a couple of ounces of acetone in the bowl, put the part on a platform in the bowl and cover the bowl with the saucer. Oh.. and just to be specific the mix was by volume not weight... not that it changes much. Water will only work for thinning water-based ⦠To clarify, you said that was Acetone / Water = 75%. I'm unclear if you meant you had a 25% water 75% acetone mixture, or a 1:1.33 ratio of acetone:water. I didn't want to waste the acetone to try and find out it doesn't work, because it's hard for me to get right now [no car] and I don't feel environmentally good about that. The heat of the water combined with the conductivity of the metal can will allow the epoxy resin to become much thinner. Adding up to 30 percent water to acrylic paint thins it but still allows it to coat a surface. If the Enamel Paint is oil-based then you should use Mineral Spirits as a thinning agent.  This smell is associated with diabetic ketoacidosis, a life-threatening condition that can occur in diabetics who donât get enough insulin. For mineral oil-based paint thinners use vegetable oil or walnut oil. Acetone is especially effective with shellac and every type of lacquer. Please login or register. with acetone. To make 100ml of 70% IPA from 99.8% IPA, you can use the following: To make it simpler, all you need is: 70ml 99.8% IPA + 30ml Distilled Water = 100ml 70% IPA. Does this work, You must login or register to post a reply, Has anyone tried mixing water with acetone or acetone with something that doesn't attack abs (like alcohol.). You can use a soft cloth or a cotton ball for this. The first sample at 100% is predictable the second is 75% started to show signs of smoothing and the surface was fairly soft, the third sample had a very small showing of smoothing and the surface was barely softened... as for the last one... it didn't seem to show any effects of acetone at all...I think if the time were doubled at 75% it would look pretty good. This smell is associated with diabetic ketoacidosis, a life-threatening condition that can occur in diabetics who donât get enough insulin. As for acetone, the same general idea applies. Water mix will reduce the vapour concentration, but it won't actually reduce the effectiveness of that vapour. Low concentrations will create less vapor. Anyway - I'll gather up info for you over the next few days. If it is already dried or you are not satisfied with the results, you can try more powerful solvents, like acetone. Acetone vapor doesn't "eat" plastic so far as I'm understanding, it can just condense and melt onto the ABS. Water-based finishes, however, tend to coagulate when acetone is added. -- The Frankster, a playfield prankster SoliForum - 3D Printing Community → Hacks & Mods → Mixing Acetone and Water for less aggressive finishing? Hot water will help speed up the process. When you are done, put the cap back into the bottle. I had some time after I got back this morning so here is a quick'n'dirty test...no before pics... sorry. The game is what ratio produces the best time with the best ratio of vapor. As others have observed, acetone and water LOVE to blend. But I understand there's a component I'm probably not understanding. However, you will have to work quickly when applying the resin after it's heated since the viscosity will return to normal as it cools again. Thus, as a tribute to this tiny little molecule that works wonders on grimy glassware, the following are the top 10 things you did and/or didnât know about acetone, in no particular order: (1) Traditional nail polish remover uses acetone as the main ingredient. However, if you need an epoxy coated surface that is less of a vapor barrier, thinning WEST SYSTEM epoxy with solvent is a valid way to achieve this Thinning epoxy with heat. Pure Acetone will destroy super glue. So my original point - its not the amount of acetone liquid as a ratio that matters - its how fast and how hard it evaporates that dictates how aggressive it is... hence Alchohol will *accelerate* the process as it encourages faster evaporation and water relative to acetone and alcohol will slow it down.  It will dissolve the cup and you will have a mess to deal with. Alcohol is not as good of a thinner as some of the others mentioned above, such as mineral spirits or even water. If you need less aggressive finishing then maybe just wipe down the parts with an acetone soaked rag. Resin is a thick fiberglass liquid that when mixed with 2 percent catalyst becomes a solid. I once heard about a professor who was tired of losing acetone to other groups. So alcohol may speed up the process as it will cause increased evaporation compared to water. TADA, shiny tree frogs. (8) Acetone has been proposed as a fuel additive; the idea is that a small amount helps vaporize the gasoline, leading to better fuel efficiency. If you want faster drying, on more dense concrete, then you can use the acetone or rubbing alcohol, which will dry faster. Just people working on tumblers and vapor smoothing. When acetone mixes with ⦠Oct 18, 2002 Urbana, IL. While acetone will remove Sharpie from clear glass, so will soapy water ð We label our casserole dishes and wine glasses with them at family gatherings- comes right off in the wash! So go ahead, write all over the windowsas long as thereâs no coating, like tinting on car windows with a Sharpie. What should I use to dilute it?  They toured with The Verve for a while. Jan 15, 2011 #2. I am sorry though, please let it drop if you don't have time for it. Elmer's glue will not be as effective if you dilute it. To do this, apply acetone on the stained areas of the floor. Our techs liken it to chicken soup; the more water you add to it, the less like chicken soup it will be. Polyester resin is the most commonly used type of resin and the cheapest. Undiluted acetone might be far too strong when thinning acrylic paint, so its best to first dilute 50% of it with water and add little bits to the acrylic paint at a time until you get your desired consistency. If you want it to kill germs, do not dilute it more than 1/3. Do NOT use Acetone. A number of solvents can be used to remove grime off parts, aid in sanding, and for general cleaning; however, only a handful easily meet the needs of companies without creating extensive overhead. > If you just want to reduce drying time you can chill the super glue in the freezer. But I was thinking if the acetone mixture wasn't as strong, presumably the piece wouldn't melt too rapidly as it does in regular acetone. Nothing inherently wrong with replicas, but this one was made out of 24 pounds of cocaine that had been mixed with acetone (or possibly gasoline, reports are unclear).  Organic chemists like myself, on the other hand, would have a lot of trouble imagining life without acetone. So alcohol may speed up the process as it will cause increased evaporation compared to water. The compound serves as a typical building block in the field of organic chemistry, but has numerous other p⦠Does this work. Use a natural, light soap or marble cleaner for deeper cleaning. Mixing concentrated H 2 O 2 and acetone with ⦠Itâs also great at cutting oils and soap scum. In some cases, the nail will also dissolve in the acetone bath.  Acetone does a better job of prepping the nail for a new coat of paint (the polish will stay on longer), but ethyl acetate doesnât dry out your nails quite as much. If there is any residue, you can remove it with a paper towel; do not use a cotton ball or a cotton pad.  One Yahoo Answers writer imparts insightful advice for you if you have this addiction: âTHROW-AWAY your acetone so that you cant inhale it any more.â. Right now I'm buying a 12 quart stock pot I think I'll be begrudgingly practicing the vapor method.  Non-acetone nailpolish removers usually use ethyl acetate instead. acetone works the same as ipa so maybe dilute this in the same way as ipa, 10 ml too every 100 ltrs of pure water. And this is why I said air flow is more important a contributor - as sitting in still air, vapor will clump. You can get thin CA glue from stewmac. It does not need much - you need to take one part of it in relation to the amount of resin and gently stir. I have found that to be adequate to bring back a sheen after 150-220 grit sanding. Best thing to do is to buy thin super glue from a hobby shop or luthier supply. I guess that would be another experiment. Acetone is able to fully dissolve in water, meaning it's miscible in water. This also works well to keep it from solidifying in the tube. After washing and rinsing the flask, beaker, etc. (3) Donât put acetone nailpolish remover in a styrofoam or plastic cup. I just dropped the parts in a glass jar with the mix and put the lid on then stirred them about every 10 mins. After that, clean the floor the same way you normally do use warm water and soap. As one of the simplest ketones, acetone is a colorless, flammable liquid that can be mixed with water. (5) Some people intentionally inhale acetone. You can use your phoneâs calculator to calculate this for you, and you can also replace the 100ml with any desired volume. Trevorus. Do you have any other uses? . Diluted urine can make it difficult to get accurate results from a urine drug test. The residue acetone will help thin out the polish inside the bottle. You can see that epoxy with solvent added is not nearly as moisture resistant as un-thinned epoxy (Figure 2). In my experience this acts as a catalyst and it cures too fast. If youâve got a porous surface and you want no odor or no vapors at all, then you use water. Dilute it a little bit and wash it afterwards. You can use more or less catalyst to change the amount of time it takes to harden but don't use ⦠Are you talking about how dunked solids theoretically have a layer of air around them always? So, I was imagining getting the right ratio that you could dunk the part in the mixture, as opposed to dealing with ratios. I don't have enough acetone to soak my parts in acetone and water. (10) During this yearâs FIFA World Cup, a package was intercepted at an airport in Columbia that contained a replica of the World Cup trophy.  This is bad for you. You are not logged in. Not sure if it would need to be stirred or not? Can You Thin Enamel Paint With Water? Dip the brush into the acetone and swish it around. Liquid Acetone doesn't 'do' anything... Dunking something in 100% mix of it is obviously more aggressive, because you have 100% concentration of liquid creating highly concentrated vapor. Correct: I was dunking, the percent is acetone, 75%(on the paper) = 75% acetone and 25% water.  A chemistry lab without acetone would be .  Pros and cons? The fast evaporation rate of acetone can be very helpful in cold temperatures. Because acetone is compatible or mixable with most finishes and stains, you can add the solvent to speed drying. prepare to be underwhelmed. Its the vapor of acetone, as molecules break off, that attach to the ABS and eat it. Generally, you can expect that acrylic paint not fully dry can be revitalized by water, but it will not be able to be rehydrated after it is fully dry. (7) The smell of acetone on someoneâs breath can be a very bad sign. Because generally the liquid does still do something to the ABS. (9) Most acetone is made during the production of phenol. The present study documents the results of a literature search and experimental work to assess the risks of mixing dilute H 2 O 2 and acetone solutions. Typical rubbing alcohol is 70%. The resin in your pipe is more like oil than water, so you need a more organic solvent, which is alcohol. Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I am just wondering what I'm not understanding correctly because usually Adrian your posts make immediate sense to me. FDA Warning to Brazilian Blowout. You have to dilute it, either with clean water or you can use a solvent, something like acetone or rubbing alcohol. Oh boy! Another thing that happens when you mix you isopropyl alcohol and water together is a solution with a boiling point of 80.37 0 C. Isopropyl alcohol boils at 82.6 0 C while the water boils at 100 0 C. The solution to this characteristic is called azeotrope. Also, just your point that reminded me ABS is a mix of three plastics, was a great reminder that there's a lot going on that I don't really understand. The majority of people know acetone only as it relates to removing nailpolish. As you can see from the reaction of cyanoacrylate from Wikipedia, the carbonyl ($\ce{C=O}$) groups do not react with the cyano acrylate which means that acetone should not react with your super glue.. That does not mean though that any water present in the acetone won't. If you dilute it by 50%, it becomes a 35% concentration. level 2 I'll dig up a bunch of scientific data for you Tomek and post it in another thread later in the week.  At home, you wash your dishes with water, but in an organic chemistry lab, you wash your dishese.g., beakers, flasks, test tubes, etc. as long as thereâs no coating, like tinting on car windows, Dad’s Bad Eating Habits Can Cause Metabolism Problems in Children. Its the same way that Gasoline doesn't burn no matter how hard you try to ignite the liquid - Only the vapor will burn. well, very dirty. (4) Acetone was the name of a band from southern California in the ’90s. I was surprised at the slowness of the mix myself. I have heard people recommend this, but it can cause all kinds of problems for gelcoat from running to fish-eyes to a yellowing of the colors. (6) Whereas most organic solvents, such as ethyl acetate, wonât mix with water (imagine trying to mix oil with water), acetone will. Thatâs why itâs used so regularly in lab work where glassware needs to be clean and *dry* before running subsequent experiments. Can you water down elmers glue for thinning and still have the adhesive effect? Chemicals Among Us: Acetic Acid Top Ten Facts, Top 10 Things You Did or Didnât Know About Acetone. Unless it's something special with the acetone-abs melting I assume it's normal solvent-solute interaction from a polar molecule. Org. But, in a pinch, alcohol can ⦠Donât ever try to pull the nails off without softening the adhesive or you risk damaging your natural nail. Acetone cleaner is one of the less expensive and least regulated choices on the market today. Initially, that probably doesn't sound impressive, but many organic compounds don't mix well with water. I personally would like something that limits me from having to use vapor techniques. In short, yes you can but only if the Enamel Paint, that you want to dilute, is water-based. Correspondingly, what is the best way to clean marble? Paint Thinner or Acetone If dust or other debris has accumulated a bit on your countertop or floor, dilute a gentle dish soap in a little warm water and use a soft cloth to clean your marble surfaces. In certain situations, acetone can be used on granite. The dried nail polish should dissolve and fall off. So you should make sure your acetone ⦠Let me start by saying we donât recommend thinning gelcoat if you can avoid it. > So you can huff late at night, just in time for that 'can't get back to sleep' after you wake up and change the bag and drink some more water. (2) Acetone will remove more than just nailpolish – itâll remove permanent marker too. ⦠ Apparently if you mix cocaine with acetone you get a papier-mâché type goop that you can mold into whatever shape you want. (6) Whereas most organic solvents, such as ethyl acetate, wonât mix with water (imagine trying to mix oil with water), acetone will. Well if you dab a bit of acetone onto the area it should lift the stain. Hereâs why it happens and what employers and other testers can do to decrease the chance of diluted samples. I guess water wouldn't work. Acetone dissolves completely when mixed with water. The main thing is good ventilation to dissipate the vapour and an air flow to stop it 'pooling' in valleys in the print. Get rid of stubborn stickers from glass and metal ; Getting rid of sticky residue can be such a pain, but with acetone handy it works to dissolve the gunk away leaving your glass brand new. In the case of dunking, it seems not to be the vapor, but dunking in 100% acetone is just way too aggressive. Powered by PunBB, supported by Informer Technologies, Inc. Mixing Acetone and Water for less aggressive finishing? ... You can add acetone to it. Alcohol needs to be at least 45% to kill germs. This is important to take into account, because if you plan on using a color-lifting technique, as you would with watercolor paints like ⦠I'll do tests when I have small parts but for now I'm treating very large parts. I've seen vapor condensing working well, so there must be something favorable to the vapor- maybe that's what you're talking about. But its not acetone in a liquid form that is doing anything much to your plastic - its the vapor. 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